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Versions check

BIOS VERSION

Check your BIOS (ROM) version by holding down the 'B' button while turning on the amp. The 'B' and the 'D' buttons will blink. The number of times the 'B' blinks indicates the release number, and the number of times 'C' blinks indicates the sub-release. Currently known releases are 1.00 and 1.02.

The BIOS cannot be upgraded by the end user.

FIRMWARE VERSION

Check your firmware version by holding down the 'C' button while turning on the amp. The 'B' and the 'C' buttons will blink. The number of times the 'B' blinks indicates the release number, and the number of times 'C' blinks indicates the sub-release. Currently known releases are 1.0 and 1.1.

The firmware can be upgraded. Line6Monkey software takes care of that.

So what's the diff between v1.00 and v1.10?

Here's what used to be in a post to the support forum, so thoughtfully obliterated by L***6.
Replies: 6 - Last Post: Oct 24, 2007 2:18 PM by: spaceatl 
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From: spaceatl 
Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 8:27 AM 		

I put this together sometime ago and sent it to Line 6 and ask them review
it in case they might be able to locate the document I refer to below or if
some of this was incorrect.

I know they are quite busy with the new product releases they just rolled
out and are probably getting ready for Winter Namm.

So here is what I found with references to Flextone firmware differences
(1.00 vs 1.10), the compressor (1.10 means SmartFX like a Spider in one
control) and Flextones locking up on a firmware upgrade and how that can be
remedied.

I think this is very reliable information. I just can't definitively state
that all of it is correct...Please keep in mind that the member TigerBill
is the author of TweakWizard...He was a very respected member of the old
board.

BTW-There is a plethora of good information on the Flex III on the old
board...
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Apparently there is a file called Updater readme.txt that contains info
about the 1.10 changes...That would be the old firmware updater prior to
the Monkey...

Here is the version 1.10 list of Updates as posted by Line 6...This is when
the update was in BETA but seems to have most of the information.
http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001217

Hey Everybody. My name is Darrell, and I'm the Flextone III product
manager. I have news about the update package we are working on as reported
by Flexboy. A couple of notes before I dive in to the update:
First of all, I'd like to publicly thank Flexboy for soliciting and
collecting all the feedback that has driven the specification of this
update. Flexboy - I appreciate your vigor and transparency.

Secondly I am very much appreciative to all of you who took time to
communicate your Flextone III issues and real world feedback. Armed with
your honest and useful response, I have co-coordinated on your behalf our
Sound Design, Engineering and Test groups to work on this release.

We are currently beta testing the firmware update and completing/testing
the multi-platform updater application. We are a couple of months behind
the schedule I proposed to Line 6 in the Fall, however we will be publicly
releasing this free update in the near future. I must apologize for
communicating my intention to release the update before the end of
February. We will not be able to release the update this week. We are in
the process of thoroughly testing both the update and the updater
application. This process will most likely take an additional couple of
weeks to insure that you all have smooth experiences updating your
Flextones. I am unable to commit to a specific date at this time. The
project is adhoc, and utilizing resources where available - around
established and scheduled projects here at Line 6. I apologize for creating
an expectation for a date. Please be patient with us as we test the heck
out of this to insure an excellent tonal/ installation experience.

As before hereís what to expect:

First the update includes 3 updated amp models:
1 - The Diamond Plate model had a small tweak to improve the authenticity
of the bottom end.
2 - The JCM2000 TSL model was replaced with a JCM2000 DSL on the Classic
Gain - Crunch channel with the Deep switch in and the Tone Shift switch
out. In addition the front end was driven with a Prescription Electronics
Germ pedal, (moded for a flat tonality). The Germ gives it this incredible
extra kick to the crunch, and opens up the top end. The rig belongs to Matt
Scanell from Vertical Horizon. It is his studio rig, for which he takes out
a duplicate set live.
3 - The JCM800 model was replaced as well. We found an 80's mint 100W
JCM800 with a simple Bogner mod for high gain. The amp sounds incredible.
The mod adds gain and tonality to the first 4 gain stages. I hope you guys
love this new model as much as we do.

The cabinets are completely re-voiced. We spent a lot of time listening and
further tweaking the cabs to get the bottom end under control, and to open
up the top end as much as appropriate to the original cabinet.

The Direct outputs are much improved. We re-shot our convolutions here at
the studio with some Neve 1073's, 33609's and a Apogee PSX100. The added
authenticity, clarity and tone that this world class front end, (Mic
preamps/compressors/A-D) provides is simply incredible.

The U-Vibe and Rotary models are improved; The Uni-Vibe got its lumpiness
back, and the Rotary had its bottom end cleaned up.

We re-leveled the amp models with a new technique that we came up with for
HD 147 that helps the clean models to better match the RMS level of the
higher gain models. At the end of the day, it means you'll have a much
easier time matching the levels of your lead and clean channels.

Finally we moved the compressor pre channel volume. In the current revision
of software it is post channel volume. Moving it pre channel volume will
allow you to adjust the level of the channel after the compressor has done
it work. This should allow for even more gain availability to clean
channels, and a more intuitive interface overall.

The update will be packaged in the cross platform updater. Flextone III
owners, will need only a MIDI interface and about 10 minutes to complete
the update.

Please donít flood our Tech support guys with further questions about when
the update will be available. I will report to the forum as soon as new
information is available. I know that some of you would like to be a part
of the beta process for this update. I am unable to offer a public beta at
this time simply because the updater application is still under test. We
have a number of committed testers and players beating this thing up on
your behalf here.
Stay tuned for more information. Thanks again for your input and passion
for this amplifier.

All the best,

Darrell

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This one TigerBill explains where the compressor was changed from post to
pre
http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001833

I know I will be flamed..... But this is NOT the purpose of a
compressor....
Remember:
You got a new control: Vol min
This allows you to make the Vol pedal act as a stomp boost ( pedal full
opened = not boosted=vol min position, pedal full shut down = boosted )
Want a Volume boost ?? => Volume set POST
Want a Drive boost ?? => volume set PRE
You just need to save your tone as the boosted one ( Chann volume boosted
if vol POST, Drive boosted if Vol PRE )
This is more flexible than the old Comp Gain, because as the Comp was POST,
your boost was a Vol boost ONLY... Now , you can have EITHER the Vol boost
OR the Drive one, and more, you keep a control of your boost with the
pedal.
It could already be done with the old version, but it was uneasy live
because you could not set the non boosted at a preset level, you had to
find the good min level each time. The Vol min makes this automatic preset
possible.
Conclusion: I think the replacement of the Comp Gain with the Vol Min is a
GREAT improvement...

Of course, you need to re-tweak your old tones to fit the new boosting
way...

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Here TigerBill figures out that the compressor is a threshold with
automatic gain compesator...
http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001740

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This next post shows the need to download the firmware first then run the
MD5 checker prior to doing the burn...Also shows how to bring a potentially
locked Flex III back to life again...Apparently holding A on power up is a
safe mode that allows for midi communication...So the steps are Power up
holding A, Flash the Firmware via prechecked file and then pwoer up holding
A and D....TigerBill mentions many times the reverting to 1.00 then back to
1.10 is sometimes needed to solve this...
http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001824
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There is a thread where GeorgeVW mentions that the FirmwareUpdater has been
pulled because it can fail 10% of time mandating a hardware change...Do you
think that since we are about 3 years past that perhaps there is a new bug
in Monkey that is doing the same thing...Perhaps FlexIII users should user
an older version or FlexIIIupdater.exe which seems to have been released as
an emergency fix...
http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001565
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Another TigerBill post that quotes the Updater Readme.txt
http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=003023

In case you can't get to it:

Updater Readme.txt
<<< WHAT'S NEW >>>

The 1.10 update includes 4 updated amp models:

- The Diamond Plate and Treadplate models had a small tweak to improve the
authenticity of the bottom end.

- The JCM2000 TSL model was replaced with a JCM2000 DSL on the Classic Gain
- Crunch channel with the Deep switch in and the Tone Shift switch out. In
addition the front end was driven with a Prescription Electronics Germ
pedal. The Germ gives it this incredible extra kick to the crunch, and
opens up the top end. The rig belongs to Matt Scanell from Vertical
Horizon. It is his studio rig, for which he takes out a duplicate set live.

- The JCM800 model was replaced as well. We found an 80's mint 100W JCM800
with a simple Bogner mod for high gain. The amp sounds incredible. The mod
adds gain and tonality to the first 4 gain stages. I hope you guys love
this new model as much as we do.

Additionally we re-worked the channel volume response to help the clean
models better match the RMS level of the higher gain models.

The cabinets are completely re-voiced. We spent a lot of time listening and
further tweaking the cabs to get the bottom end under control, and to open
up the top end as much as appropriate to the original cabinet.

The Direct outputs are much improved. We re-shot our convolutions here at
the studio with some Neve 1073's, 33609's and an Apogee PSX100. The added
authenticity, clarity and tone that this world class front end provides is
simply incredible.

The U-Vibe and Rotary models are improved; The Uni-Vibe got its lumpiness
back, and the Rotary had its bottom end cleaned up (from HD147).

Finally we moved the compressor pre channel volume. In the original 1.0
revision, it is post channel volume. Moving it pre channel volume will
allow you to adjust the level of the channel after the compressor has done
it work. This should allow for even more gain availability to clean
channels, and a more intuitive interface overall.

PS: in the v1.0, you have a Gain setting for the Compressor, and NO vol min
setting
In the v1.1, it's the reverse..


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From: geodavjenk 
Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 9:47 AM   in response to: spaceatl 		

Thanks spaceatl. A lot of good information that will take a while to
digest.


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From: TweakFreak 
Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 1:54 PM   in response to: geodavjenk 		

Ditto that! It will take some time to read all that historic material.
Thanks Space.


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From: spaceatl 
Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 2:18 PM   in response to: TweakFreak 		

You're welcome guys. I hope this will shed some light. It certainly brought
back some memories reading TigerBill's posts...


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From: mak1965 
Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 9:58 AM   in response to: spaceatl 		

SORRY to sound stoopid,,, but I am believing that there is a new firmware
update out now or soon???

Please let me know!
Thanks


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From: spaceatl 
Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 10:10 AM   in response to: mak1965 		

The current version is over 3 years old. There are 2 version of Firmware at
this time (1.00 and 1.10). This post is a recollection of the differences
between them.


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From: s0c9 
Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)
Posted: Oct 24, 2007 10:45 AM   in response to: mak1965 		

we'd LIKE for there to be a NEW firmware version out soon, but we're not
holding our breath... There's been no inkling or hints on this from L6,
tho' rumors abounded about a possible Flex4 prior to the release of the new
"tube" Spider.

We eagerly await such an event :)


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