Troubleshooting > Versions

Versions check

BIOS VERSION

Check your BIOS (ROM) version by holding down the 'B' button while turning on the amp. The 'B' and the 'D' buttons will blink. The number of times the 'B' blinks indicates the release number, and the number of times 'C' blinks indicates the sub-release. Currently known releases are 1.00 and 1.02.

The BIOS cannot be upgraded by the end user.

FIRMWARE VERSION

Check your firmware version by holding down the 'C' button while turning on the amp. The 'B' and the 'C' buttons will blink. The number of times the 'B' blinks indicates the release number, and the number of times 'C' blinks indicates the sub-release. Currently known releases are 1.0 and 1.1.

The firmware can be upgraded. Line6Monkey software takes care of that.

So what's the diff between v1.00 and v1.10?

Here's what used to be in a post to the support forum, so thoughtfully obliterated by L***6.

Replies: 6 - Last Post: Oct 24, 2007 2:18 PM by: spaceatl 

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From: spaceatl 

Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 8:27 AM 		



I put this together sometime ago and sent it to Line 6 and ask them review

it in case they might be able to locate the document I refer to below or if

some of this was incorrect.



I know they are quite busy with the new product releases they just rolled

out and are probably getting ready for Winter Namm.



So here is what I found with references to Flextone firmware differences

(1.00 vs 1.10), the compressor (1.10 means SmartFX like a Spider in one

control) and Flextones locking up on a firmware upgrade and how that can be

remedied.



I think this is very reliable information. I just can't definitively state

that all of it is correct...Please keep in mind that the member TigerBill

is the author of TweakWizard...He was a very respected member of the old

board.



BTW-There is a plethora of good information on the Flex III on the old

board...

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Apparently there is a file called Updater readme.txt that contains info

about the 1.10 changes...That would be the old firmware updater prior to

the Monkey...



Here is the version 1.10 list of Updates as posted by Line 6...This is when

the update was in BETA but seems to have most of the information.

http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001217



Hey Everybody. My name is Darrell, and I'm the Flextone III product

manager. I have news about the update package we are working on as reported

by Flexboy. A couple of notes before I dive in to the update:

First of all, I'd like to publicly thank Flexboy for soliciting and

collecting all the feedback that has driven the specification of this

update. Flexboy - I appreciate your vigor and transparency.



Secondly I am very much appreciative to all of you who took time to

communicate your Flextone III issues and real world feedback. Armed with

your honest and useful response, I have co-coordinated on your behalf our

Sound Design, Engineering and Test groups to work on this release.



We are currently beta testing the firmware update and completing/testing

the multi-platform updater application. We are a couple of months behind

the schedule I proposed to Line 6 in the Fall, however we will be publicly

releasing this free update in the near future. I must apologize for

communicating my intention to release the update before the end of

February. We will not be able to release the update this week. We are in

the process of thoroughly testing both the update and the updater

application. This process will most likely take an additional couple of

weeks to insure that you all have smooth experiences updating your

Flextones. I am unable to commit to a specific date at this time. The

project is adhoc, and utilizing resources where available - around

established and scheduled projects here at Line 6. I apologize for creating

an expectation for a date. Please be patient with us as we test the heck

out of this to insure an excellent tonal/ installation experience.



As before hereís what to expect:



First the update includes 3 updated amp models:

1 - The Diamond Plate model had a small tweak to improve the authenticity

of the bottom end.

2 - The JCM2000 TSL model was replaced with a JCM2000 DSL on the Classic

Gain - Crunch channel with the Deep switch in and the Tone Shift switch

out. In addition the front end was driven with a Prescription Electronics

Germ pedal, (moded for a flat tonality). The Germ gives it this incredible

extra kick to the crunch, and opens up the top end. The rig belongs to Matt

Scanell from Vertical Horizon. It is his studio rig, for which he takes out

a duplicate set live.

3 - The JCM800 model was replaced as well. We found an 80's mint 100W

JCM800 with a simple Bogner mod for high gain. The amp sounds incredible.

The mod adds gain and tonality to the first 4 gain stages. I hope you guys

love this new model as much as we do.



The cabinets are completely re-voiced. We spent a lot of time listening and

further tweaking the cabs to get the bottom end under control, and to open

up the top end as much as appropriate to the original cabinet.



The Direct outputs are much improved. We re-shot our convolutions here at

the studio with some Neve 1073's, 33609's and a Apogee PSX100. The added

authenticity, clarity and tone that this world class front end, (Mic

preamps/compressors/A-D) provides is simply incredible.



The U-Vibe and Rotary models are improved; The Uni-Vibe got its lumpiness

back, and the Rotary had its bottom end cleaned up.



We re-leveled the amp models with a new technique that we came up with for

HD 147 that helps the clean models to better match the RMS level of the

higher gain models. At the end of the day, it means you'll have a much

easier time matching the levels of your lead and clean channels.



Finally we moved the compressor pre channel volume. In the current revision

of software it is post channel volume. Moving it pre channel volume will

allow you to adjust the level of the channel after the compressor has done

it work. This should allow for even more gain availability to clean

channels, and a more intuitive interface overall.



The update will be packaged in the cross platform updater. Flextone III

owners, will need only a MIDI interface and about 10 minutes to complete

the update.



Please donít flood our Tech support guys with further questions about when

the update will be available. I will report to the forum as soon as new

information is available. I know that some of you would like to be a part

of the beta process for this update. I am unable to offer a public beta at

this time simply because the updater application is still under test. We

have a number of committed testers and players beating this thing up on

your behalf here.

Stay tuned for more information. Thanks again for your input and passion

for this amplifier.



All the best,



Darrell



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This one TigerBill explains where the compressor was changed from post to

pre

http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001833



I know I will be flamed..... But this is NOT the purpose of a

compressor....

Remember:

You got a new control: Vol min

This allows you to make the Vol pedal act as a stomp boost ( pedal full

opened = not boosted=vol min position, pedal full shut down = boosted )

Want a Volume boost ?? => Volume set POST

Want a Drive boost ?? => volume set PRE

You just need to save your tone as the boosted one ( Chann volume boosted

if vol POST, Drive boosted if Vol PRE )

This is more flexible than the old Comp Gain, because as the Comp was POST,

your boost was a Vol boost ONLY... Now , you can have EITHER the Vol boost

OR the Drive one, and more, you keep a control of your boost with the

pedal.

It could already be done with the old version, but it was uneasy live

because you could not set the non boosted at a preset level, you had to

find the good min level each time. The Vol min makes this automatic preset

possible.

Conclusion: I think the replacement of the Comp Gain with the Vol Min is a

GREAT improvement...



Of course, you need to re-tweak your old tones to fit the new boosting

way...



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Here TigerBill figures out that the compressor is a threshold with

automatic gain compesator...

http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001740



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This next post shows the need to download the firmware first then run the

MD5 checker prior to doing the burn...Also shows how to bring a potentially

locked Flex III back to life again...Apparently holding A on power up is a

safe mode that allows for midi communication...So the steps are Power up

holding A, Flash the Firmware via prechecked file and then pwoer up holding

A and D....TigerBill mentions many times the reverting to 1.00 then back to

1.10 is sometimes needed to solve this...

http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001824

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There is a thread where GeorgeVW mentions that the FirmwareUpdater has been

pulled because it can fail 10% of time mandating a hardware change...Do you

think that since we are about 3 years past that perhaps there is a new bug

in Monkey that is doing the same thing...Perhaps FlexIII users should user

an older version or FlexIIIupdater.exe which seems to have been released as

an emergency fix...

http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=001565

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Another TigerBill post that quotes the Updater Readme.txt

http://line6.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=003023



In case you can't get to it:



Updater Readme.txt

<<< WHAT'S NEW >>>



The 1.10 update includes 4 updated amp models:



- The Diamond Plate and Treadplate models had a small tweak to improve the

authenticity of the bottom end.



- The JCM2000 TSL model was replaced with a JCM2000 DSL on the Classic Gain

- Crunch channel with the Deep switch in and the Tone Shift switch out. In

addition the front end was driven with a Prescription Electronics Germ

pedal. The Germ gives it this incredible extra kick to the crunch, and

opens up the top end. The rig belongs to Matt Scanell from Vertical

Horizon. It is his studio rig, for which he takes out a duplicate set live.



- The JCM800 model was replaced as well. We found an 80's mint 100W JCM800

with a simple Bogner mod for high gain. The amp sounds incredible. The mod

adds gain and tonality to the first 4 gain stages. I hope you guys love

this new model as much as we do.



Additionally we re-worked the channel volume response to help the clean

models better match the RMS level of the higher gain models.



The cabinets are completely re-voiced. We spent a lot of time listening and

further tweaking the cabs to get the bottom end under control, and to open

up the top end as much as appropriate to the original cabinet.



The Direct outputs are much improved. We re-shot our convolutions here at

the studio with some Neve 1073's, 33609's and an Apogee PSX100. The added

authenticity, clarity and tone that this world class front end provides is

simply incredible.



The U-Vibe and Rotary models are improved; The Uni-Vibe got its lumpiness

back, and the Rotary had its bottom end cleaned up (from HD147).



Finally we moved the compressor pre channel volume. In the original 1.0

revision, it is post channel volume. Moving it pre channel volume will

allow you to adjust the level of the channel after the compressor has done

it work. This should allow for even more gain availability to clean

channels, and a more intuitive interface overall.



PS: in the v1.0, you have a Gain setting for the Compressor, and NO vol min

setting

In the v1.1, it's the reverse..





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From: geodavjenk 

Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 9:47 AM   in response to: spaceatl 		



Thanks spaceatl. A lot of good information that will take a while to

digest.





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From: TweakFreak 

Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 1:54 PM   in response to: geodavjenk 		



Ditto that! It will take some time to read all that historic material.

Thanks Space.





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From: spaceatl 

Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 2:18 PM   in response to: TweakFreak 		



You're welcome guys. I hope this will shed some light. It certainly brought

back some memories reading TigerBill's posts...





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From: mak1965 

Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 9:58 AM   in response to: spaceatl 		



SORRY to sound stoopid,,, but I am believing that there is a new firmware

update out now or soon???



Please let me know!

Thanks





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From: spaceatl 

Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 10:10 AM   in response to: mak1965 		



The current version is over 3 years old. There are 2 version of Firmware at

this time (1.00 and 1.10). This post is a recollection of the differences

between them.





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From: s0c9 

Re: Flextone III Firmware Differences and other Goodies (Long Post)

Posted: Oct 24, 2007 10:45 AM   in response to: mak1965 		



we'd LIKE for there to be a NEW firmware version out soon, but we're not

holding our breath... There's been no inkling or hints on this from L6,

tho' rumors abounded about a possible Flex4 prior to the release of the new

"tube" Spider.



We eagerly await such an event :)





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